I am planning to drive my 2018 Touring edition CR V on a 2-1/2 hour trip. There will be 5 people and luggage totaling almost (maybe) 1200 lbs. The manual says the weight capacity is 850 lbs?? Really? I never would have thought that and now I don't know what to do as we leave tomorrow morning! Anyone ever drive over the weight limit? Help!
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I've surpassed 850 with 4 adults a few weeks ago... The weight limit is a bit of a joke. 5 adult males in the US is 975lbs on average (source Wikipedia average weights). Some of us exceed average.
I agree with the other poster that it is an engineering constraint but this is so low that I feel lawyers got in the way.
Im a hypocrite for advocating this and saying this, and I could be totally wrong and have screwed my trannie.. but hey that's what my extended warranty is for. Not good to do full time but for special occasions. It wasn't like I was hauling a u haul.
If you make the trip, be kind to your transmission. You might put it in eco to ease your natural tendencies. I wouldn't gun it on the on ramp!
I’ll bet Honda changes their numbers upwards just because 3 of the 4 posts here have stated that they have, or will be exceeding, the original Honda numbers.?‍♂
It would be interesting to know the OP’s tranny temps during the upcoming trip.
It would be interesting to know the OP’s tranny temps during the upcoming trip.
The CRV is an incredible buggy - when used within its (limited) design constraints.
My sympathies to the 3 poor souls located in the rear seat; at least the luggage won't care about being cramped.
My sympathies to the 3 poor souls located in the rear seat; at least the luggage won't care about being cramped.
Handling is going to suffer, brake distances will be longer, gas mleage goes down, and if you make a habit of it you're gonna wear the suspension parts more than you should. But all things being equal, you won't all die in a gigantic car-b-que.
If something should happen, I'd bet the number of posts saying "all should be good" or something to that affect, will quickly become scarce.
Best to approach this question from an engineering design perspective.
Keep in mind.. Honda set the weight limits for a reason ---> it is what they designed the platform to work with under all possible driving conditions.
In other words.. staying well inside of "worst case"...... driving at reasonable speeds, on a good quality road, with the vehicle well maintained, with plenty of braking distance maintained, and no severe upgrades or downgrades to face on the road... you "might" be OK.
But Honda has to specify for the worst case ---> high speed, bad road conditions, a driver who does not apply caution in terms of vehicle distance and speed approaching intersections, any possible road grade (up or down), etc.
IF.. if.. anything goes wrong... don't try to blame Honda... it's all on the owner here.
I personally would not drive a CRV beyond the specified limits documented by Honda. But that's me (retired engineering professional).
Keep in mind.. Honda set the weight limits for a reason ---> it is what they designed the platform to work with under all possible driving conditions.
In other words.. staying well inside of "worst case"...... driving at reasonable speeds, on a good quality road, with the vehicle well maintained, with plenty of braking distance maintained, and no severe upgrades or downgrades to face on the road... you "might" be OK.
But Honda has to specify for the worst case ---> high speed, bad road conditions, a driver who does not apply caution in terms of vehicle distance and speed approaching intersections, any possible road grade (up or down), etc.
IF.. if.. anything goes wrong... don't try to blame Honda... it's all on the owner here.
I personally would not drive a CRV beyond the specified limits documented by Honda. But that's me (retired engineering professional).
It took me quite a while to find the cargo weight for a Ford Escape, for 2016 it seems to be 1,100 (GVW-curb weight), https://www.autobytel.com/ford/escape/2016/specifications/ ( I found https://itstillruns.com/cargo-specifications-ford-escape-7427912.html that implies the cargo weight limit is 4,100 lbs for the 2011 but I think they got their calculations wrong.) The towing capacity of the 2018 is now 3,500 lbs. These are much better than the 850 and 1500 lbs of the CR-V. (Does U-Haul even rent a trailer that weights less than 1,500 lbs?)
I've bought a new 2015 CR-V Touring AWD (I bought it when it was still on the delivery truck in another state) and although I haven't had any major problems with it, I am disappointed in many 'small' things. I definitely had a defective windshield and both dealers in town, I'd say now, hindered me in getting it replaced, they certainly didn't explain all it took was for the factory rep to see it and OK the replacement, she visits both dealers once a month. My dealer service manager just told me he was 'calling it in', this went on for four months! The other dealer tried to say it was due to a sand storm, "look at all the pits in the paint here on front of the hood" Oops, no pits.
My second gripe is the Nav system. You can set it for Maximum or minimum freeway driving, you can't set it for minimum time/distance. Often the fastest/shortest is not the first pick of the three suggested routes. From Luckenbach Tx to Albuquerque NM, of the SIX available routes the Nav system come up with, the best is 10 hours 51 minutes (664 miles), where as Mr Jobs and Mr Page say its more like 9 hours 47 minutes (653 mi), 10% quicker. (I also have a gripe in Honda still charges us 2015 owners $99 for map updates, where now new owners get 5 years of updates for free). Although this is true as far as I know for all cars, I hate that the nav system locks out all input once the car is in gear. The airbag system and seatbelt warning has a sensor for a front seat passenger, why can't the verified passenger be allowed to input the nav destination? As it is now, once the car is started, it takes 1 minute for the nav system to boot, then another at least 4 minutes to input your destination, review the suggest routes and choose one. This is 5 minutes you could be down the road (I just assume you know how to get out of your neighborhood).
The ACC and the lane keep assist systems were released before they were ready. When ACC cruising, it will wait til it gets to the set distance behind a car, then slam on the brakes. The radar distance sensor is behind the H in the front of the car, one snowy trip at night mine got covered in snow and ice, then failed to work (isn't this the condition you want the radar to work?) The car has an ambient temp sensor, why not turn on a heater when the temperature drops below freezing? The lane keep assist likes to take freeway exits. I hear the later model years are much better, but Honda refuses to update the software in my car. (Unlike Tesla that is constantly doing software updates for all owners).
Honda sent out thumbdrives to a few lucky early 2015 owners to install Apple Car play and test it out. So the software is available. Even if it is buggy I'd sign a disclaimer and pay money for it. But NO!
There are many other small things, like no aux input port on the Touring trim (LX trim yes, top level Touring no), I have had other CR-V owners agree the driver's left arm rest is just too low; and one time in the dealer shop for a factory recall, the tech reset all the maintenance minders, Honda PLEASE just give us some suggested maintenance intervals, and a log book to record maintenance. I've written Honda America, and have gotten letters back that they tried to call, but that is BS, the call logs on my phone don't verify that.
Sorry guys, I am selling the Honda CR-V and getting a Ford Edge, in 'real world' tests it gets close to the same mpg, and has 4" more hip room in the rear seat. On test drives I checked all the above (except the snow one, and the nav lock out gripe), no problems. The snow one the sales guy said it won't be a problem as the sensor is behind the rear view mirror and snow get cleaned off by the wipers. My sister loves Honda, I am a buy America kind of guy (I have an '88 Ford Ranger, 200k miles, and it still passes emissions with flying colors).
I've bought a new 2015 CR-V Touring AWD (I bought it when it was still on the delivery truck in another state) and although I haven't had any major problems with it, I am disappointed in many 'small' things. I definitely had a defective windshield and both dealers in town, I'd say now, hindered me in getting it replaced, they certainly didn't explain all it took was for the factory rep to see it and OK the replacement, she visits both dealers once a month. My dealer service manager just told me he was 'calling it in', this went on for four months! The other dealer tried to say it was due to a sand storm, "look at all the pits in the paint here on front of the hood" Oops, no pits.
My second gripe is the Nav system. You can set it for Maximum or minimum freeway driving, you can't set it for minimum time/distance. Often the fastest/shortest is not the first pick of the three suggested routes. From Luckenbach Tx to Albuquerque NM, of the SIX available routes the Nav system come up with, the best is 10 hours 51 minutes (664 miles), where as Mr Jobs and Mr Page say its more like 9 hours 47 minutes (653 mi), 10% quicker. (I also have a gripe in Honda still charges us 2015 owners $99 for map updates, where now new owners get 5 years of updates for free). Although this is true as far as I know for all cars, I hate that the nav system locks out all input once the car is in gear. The airbag system and seatbelt warning has a sensor for a front seat passenger, why can't the verified passenger be allowed to input the nav destination? As it is now, once the car is started, it takes 1 minute for the nav system to boot, then another at least 4 minutes to input your destination, review the suggest routes and choose one. This is 5 minutes you could be down the road (I just assume you know how to get out of your neighborhood).
The ACC and the lane keep assist systems were released before they were ready. When ACC cruising, it will wait til it gets to the set distance behind a car, then slam on the brakes. The radar distance sensor is behind the H in the front of the car, one snowy trip at night mine got covered in snow and ice, then failed to work (isn't this the condition you want the radar to work?) The car has an ambient temp sensor, why not turn on a heater when the temperature drops below freezing? The lane keep assist likes to take freeway exits. I hear the later model years are much better, but Honda refuses to update the software in my car. (Unlike Tesla that is constantly doing software updates for all owners).
Honda sent out thumbdrives to a few lucky early 2015 owners to install Apple Car play and test it out. So the software is available. Even if it is buggy I'd sign a disclaimer and pay money for it. But NO!
There are many other small things, like no aux input port on the Touring trim (LX trim yes, top level Touring no), I have had other CR-V owners agree the driver's left arm rest is just too low; and one time in the dealer shop for a factory recall, the tech reset all the maintenance minders, Honda PLEASE just give us some suggested maintenance intervals, and a log book to record maintenance. I've written Honda America, and have gotten letters back that they tried to call, but that is BS, the call logs on my phone don't verify that.
Sorry guys, I am selling the Honda CR-V and getting a Ford Edge, in 'real world' tests it gets close to the same mpg, and has 4" more hip room in the rear seat. On test drives I checked all the above (except the snow one, and the nav lock out gripe), no problems. The snow one the sales guy said it won't be a problem as the sensor is behind the rear view mirror and snow get cleaned off by the wipers. My sister loves Honda, I am a buy America kind of guy (I have an '88 Ford Ranger, 200k miles, and it still passes emissions with flying colors).
I just returned from a business trip in Trinidad where me and 3 other adult men and all of our luggage and equipment were picked up from the airport in a new 2018 CRV and driven 2 hours to the far side of the island at regular highway speeds on less than well maintained roads in 95° temps with all the same specification tires and running gear... it never flinched (though it was a wronghand drive car seeing as it's part of the English commonwealth ?).
I'd absolutely have no issue, especially now, carrying loads around like you're describing in either of our '17 or '18 Touring.
Cheers
I'd absolutely have no issue, especially now, carrying loads around like you're describing in either of our '17 or '18 Touring.
Cheers
I guess that depends on how you define a "passenger" in regards to weight. What about a family with two adults and three children? I think the CR-V, with it's five passenger capacity would work in that particular situation.
MotorTrend published article about CR-V https://www.motortrend.com/cars/hon...7351&wc_rid=4035:667575&_wcsid=C714E2E733D89179087BDB2EF9577EEF13209EB8C6FE9A5C
And Honda assembles CR-Vs in their Marysville and East Liberty plants in Ohio, USA.
hondanews.com
Four Honda Manufacturing Plants Earn 2018 U.S. EPA ENERGY STAR Certification For Outstanding Energy Efficiency
For the 13th consecutive year, two of Honda’s Ohio automobile manufacturing plants have earned the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA’s) ENERGY STAR certification, while Honda Manufacturing of Indiana (HMIN) achieved the designation for the seventh year in a row.
hondanews.com
The lawyers in the US are responsible for the extremely conservative capacities.
Keep in mind that the exact same CRV is available in other countries as a seven passenger vehicle.
The Australian CRV is rated for 1250 lbs payload, with the same powertrain.
The UK CRV is rated for 1120 to 1660 lbs payload depending on transmission (CVT vs manual) and AWD VS FWD.
As long as you aren't hauling a pallet of bricks, I wouldn't be overly concerned about overloading the vehicle.
Keep in mind that the exact same CRV is available in other countries as a seven passenger vehicle.
The Australian CRV is rated for 1250 lbs payload, with the same powertrain.
The UK CRV is rated for 1120 to 1660 lbs payload depending on transmission (CVT vs manual) and AWD VS FWD.
As long as you aren't hauling a pallet of bricks, I wouldn't be overly concerned about overloading the vehicle.
Please bear with me as my inner retired engineer expresses himself here...... 
I would be cautious about making generalizations about differences in cargo load limits in different countries.
Why?
They are not necessarily the exact same powertrain and suspension in each country. As such... there may very well be valid differences by country, and as such.. different specified limits. There are in fact different engines and transmissions used in CRVs for different localizations. And not all 1.5Ts are alike in the Honda lineup.. not even in the US. They can be configured and tuned differently to meet different local requirements and regulations, as well as local safety standards. A notable driver of different tuning by locality would be differences in fuel formulations, octane ratings, etc. Same with suspension, tires, brakes, other parts.
You yourself have noted that in the case of the UK.. different power train configurations = different specified cargo load limits. Which in my view supports what I am sharing here.
I would be cautious about making generalizations about differences in cargo load limits in different countries.
Why?
They are not necessarily the exact same powertrain and suspension in each country. As such... there may very well be valid differences by country, and as such.. different specified limits. There are in fact different engines and transmissions used in CRVs for different localizations. And not all 1.5Ts are alike in the Honda lineup.. not even in the US. They can be configured and tuned differently to meet different local requirements and regulations, as well as local safety standards. A notable driver of different tuning by locality would be differences in fuel formulations, octane ratings, etc. Same with suspension, tires, brakes, other parts.
You yourself have noted that in the case of the UK.. different power train configurations = different specified cargo load limits. Which in my view supports what I am sharing here.
I am impressed with the bravery of that. Five people in one vehicle on a trip. Whew! I could never endure it. I'm glad it worked out well for you and went safely.
No. Riding in a car with four other squirmy, small-bladdered, noisy, talky, stinky, whiny people, for way too long a time. Especially if there are atrocious midgets, or dangerously bored teenagers.
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