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Seat belt required to shift to Drive

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#1 ·
Does anyone know who to turn off the requirement of having your seat belt on to drive on the 2017?
I often times have to jockey my car around a crowded driveway and having to put on my seat belt every time has become annoying.
 
#2 ·
I'm not entirely sure, but I doubt Honda would make a bypass to a safety feature like that, similar to how you can't disable the red seatbelt light that blinks and beeps in other cars. Although it would be convenient for you, for 99.9% of the population it is an added safety benefit.

You may just have to live with it, it only takes 2 seconds to do.
 
#4 ·
I'll have to test this out when I head home tonight, but the only requirement that I know of to be able to shift out of Park is that the brake pedal must be depressed when doing so. With this system it is important to press the brake pedal first and then shift because if you try to shift and keep pressure on the shift handle while then pressing the brake pedal, you may hinder the unlock mechanism.
 
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#7 ·
Actually, this happened to me a few days ago. Unfortunately, it was 5am and I can't recall exactly what I did to have it happen. I tried to go into reverse before I had my belt on and it yelled at me and simply wouldn't. Yet when I stopped at my mailbox and parked to get out of the car to grab my mail, when I got back in without belting it allowed me to place in drive without any warning beeps and went into drive normally. I haven't had the chance to attempt to recreate it but I do know what you are talking about.
 
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#8 ·
As has been stated, the vehicle will start and drive regardless of seat belt usage.

All 1974 and some 1975 year-model vehicles sold in the US had a federally mandated starter interlock system that required the driver and passenger to sit down and buckle their seatbelts before the vehicle would start. Leaving the belts buckled would not defeat the system because the electronic control module contained logic that looked for a retracted belt, weight in the seat, then a latched belt in that order before the vehicle would start. Lots of those electronic modules were bypassed. :) This short-lived, annoying requirement was dropped after October 1974.
 
#12 ·
I absolutely agree wearing your seat belt is extremely important when driving. However, there are several times I move my car throughout the week when it isn't needed. Surely you have pulled your car out of the garage or re arranged a driveway so someone else could leave and not applied your own seat belt.
 
#11 ·
Did you maybe have the electronic parking brake engaged? I use the parking brake every time I park the car. If my seatbelt is on and I put it in D or R and give it gas, the parking brake automatically releases. I noticed one time when I didn't have my seatbelt buckled, it wouldn't disengage the brake when I pressed the gas pedal and warned me I needed to fasten my seatbelt. This was the only time I was required to put my seatbelt on to move the vehicle.
 
#14 · (Edited)
No, I automatically put it on no matter what. It feels too strange even if just driving across the parking lot from the gas pumps to the store entrance or whatever. And I'm too whatever self deprecating term one prefers to rearrange the driveway even once a week. I'd either park on the street and be done with it or use seniority to put someone else on the street. There's also the whole cold start for 30 seconds of running thing and the penurious gas cost at zero mpg etc. to factor in. Yeah, next to nothing but still pushes my curmudgeon button.
 
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Wow, I'm not sure why there are so many people that feel the need to throw in their opinions instead of just answering the posed question. For everyone saying that it won't happen, there is at least one set of circumstances that prevents the car from driving without the belt latched. You can not simply say it doesn't just because this set of circumstances have not occurred in your personal experience.

ANYWAY, when i get in my car in the morning I do notice that the word brake is lit in my cluster, assuming the parking brake was automatically applied (I never apply mine at home...ever). Yet, that does not prevent me from driving and it disengages automatically when I reverse. I will try to recreate the circumstances that occurred that one time for me but as I said, it only happened once and I really have no idea why.
 
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#18 ·
The parking brake is now automatic and applies itself every time you shut down the vehicle. I have had to learn to release it before backing out because nothing happens when I touch the gas pedal. I do believe that if you're in Drive and try to go forward with the parking brake engaged, it will automatically disengage, but I think that for safety reasons it doesn't do this in reverse.

There is a procedure in the Owner's Manual to disable the feature if you want to.
 
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#19 ·
I do not believe this is true.

I know for sure that at least part of it is incorrect. If you apply the electronic parking brake when you park, and then get back in, start the vehicle and put it in reverse, when you hit the throttle it will disengage the parking brake. I know this for a fact. Same as if you pull forward. I am not certain that it "applies itself every time you shut down the vehicle" and believe it does not - however I am not as sure about that.
 
#20 ·
Agree, when I first start it in the morning the brake light is lit, when I place in reverse the light goes off. I assume the light going off means it disengaged? Can someone confirm the light goes out when disengaged?
 
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#21 · (Edited)
:D You guys just made my day. I just went to try this out only because there has been so much conversation about it. I will give you a step by step.

-Got in the CR-V and started it, leaving my seatbelt off
-Put it in Reverse and tapped the gas. The vehicle yelled at me and said to put my seat belt on
-Put my foot on the brake and pressed the parking brake release button DOWN
-Backed out of the garage without the seat belt on

I then put it in park, listened to a good song, put it back in Drive and pulled it in the garage (the parking brake did not re-engage). ALL WITHOUT A SEATBELT ON! I'm living on the edge ;)

 
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#22 ·
:D You guys just made my day. I just went to try this out only because there has been so much conversation about it. I will give you a step by step.

-Got in the CR-V and started it, leaving my seatbelt off
-Put it in Reverse and tapped the gas. The vehicle yelled at me and said to put my seat belt on
-Put my foot on the brake and pressed the parking brake release button DOWN
-Backed out of the garage without the seat belt on

I then put it in park, listened to a good song, put it back in Drive and pulled it in the garage (the parking brake did not re-engage). ALL WITHOUT A SEATBELT ON! I'm living on the edge ;)

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So funny, I did exactly the same thing today! As I said in one of my previous posts, when it happened to me it was 5am and was really not awake so couldn't remember exactly what was what just that it prevented me. So, yes, I think we can agree, this mystery is now solved!
 
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#24 ·
Yeah, I was wrong about the parking brake not disengaging automatically when you touch the gas pedal. It does.

My issue is that when I switch it into Reverse and release the brake pedal I expect the vehicle to begin moving slowly on its own. Tapping on the gas pedal to back out, for me, is generally unnecessary and when the parking brake is on and releases automatically is a little unnerving as the car kind of lurches backwards a bit.

Also, the parking brake does engage automatically, but it is triggered by shutting off the vehicle, not by placing it in Park. If you listen to the car immediately after shutting off the engine, you'll hear a whirring/whining kind of sound from the back end. That's the parking brake engaging. If your foot is still applying the brakes when this occurs, you'll also feel the pedal drop just a little when the parking brake engages.
 
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#25 ·
Thanks! I actually like the way the parking brake works in terms of having to press the accelerator pedal - personally I think it's a little better from a safety perspective (having to take deliberate action to move the vehicle).

And I didn't know the ebrake automatically engages - I'll have to look more into this. From a usability perspective, I think it's probably a good thing. From a maintenance perspective, I'm going to need to look further into it. It obviously impacts servicing brakes. I would otherwise have attributed pedal drop during shut down to something similar to hydro-boost shutting down.
 
#27 ·
So, actually, I did just a bit more investigation.

On my vehicle, as delivered by the dealer, the electronic parking brake does NOT automatically engage - period. It may be that some folks have changed the setting, but I don't think the default is for it to automatically engage.

How did I confirm this? The CR-V was parked in my garage overnight. Walked in the garage, got in, foot on brake and hit the button. Bottom right of display where BRAKE lights up in red when it's engaged? Not lit. Backed out of garage - nothing delaying motion as it normally does when the electronic brake is engaged before it releases.

Did the same exact thing after parking the vehicle for a while and then coming back. This time, I didn't put my foot on the brake, and just hit the button twice. BRAKE light not lit.

Started the vehicle, backed up - no resistance indicating vehicle sensing reverse and disengaging brake.

Then, pulled back in. Shut everything down. Started the vehicle, engaged electronic brake. BRAKE light lit up. Put vehicle in reverse, stepped on accelerator pedal. Momentary delay while vehicle disengages eBrake, then it backed up.

Seems pretty conclusive to me that the default setting is that the electronic brake does NOT automatically engage under any circumstance and that you normally have to change that setting for it to do so.
 
#29 ·
My suspicion is that it is not. Given that the instructions indicate "one beep" for no automatic brake and "two beeps" for automatic brake, and because my sales staff during presales indicated that I needed to enable the brake, I would guess that the normal delivered state is to not have it enabled. But that's just a guess. I'll play with the settings turning it on and off and see what happens.
 
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