Immediate question comes to mind. Did they fix that ignition flaw that makes their vehicles easy to steal? Just came back this morning driving the 2018 crv and thought that the cvt wasnt bad (read stories about Nissan cvt). Was thinking that I don't have to change fluidfor the cvt, a plus as compared to the conventional auto. I used to own a 2002 Sonata so I am not really impressed with KIA Hyundai. It's so true about uou only have 1 chance to impress.

 

thats pre 2021 kia vehicles without immobilizers

 

If you don't change the CR-V CVT fluid every 25,000 to 30,000 miles - it will not last. The lubricant is almost gone at 40,000 miles. There have been CR-V and Accord CVT failures due to not changing the fluids. It is simple - open the the fill test and the drain, put back the drain plugs when it stops flowing - add 4 quarts into the plug in the engine compartment - open the fill test and when the excess flows out put it back.
$40 vs $4000 for a new CVT.

It could be worse - the Mercedes its $400 fluids for the CVT fluids.

 

Yes, this forum is saturated with CVT failure stories. Hard to find one at the moment, but they must be there. Aren’t they?

 

I also think anytime you make a 6 +/- year jump in model years, it’s going to seem like a pretty dramatic improvement in creature comforts and tech. e.g., My 2020 CRV is a major improvement vs my 2012 CRV, like two different vehicles even at the same trim level. I got rid of the 2012 after 1 year, but am very satisfied with the 2020.

 

Was not impressed with the ride quality of our friends 2022 SantaFe as compared to our 2022 CRV. Felt every bump in his SantaFe.

 

I get a chuckle every time I see the Santa Cruz. I don't think they could make it look like an older Ridgeline if they tried.

Never heard of a CVA. CVT does have transmission fluid.

I just went through the maintenance schedule for the 2023 sport touring. There is no mention of CVT fluids needed to be changed. The transmission is one of the generators. Please explain to me what I am missing because clearly I am missing something. If the other cars have a mechanical CVT that makes sense but that doesn't change that I will not have a mechanical transmission and will not have to deal with fluids.

 

There's a reason Hyundai can't command any sort of "horrendous" dealer markup. Also I don't think paying MSRP for a car in todays climate is all that bad, especially given I got 17,000 for my old Civic with 80,000 miles on it, I only paid 24,000 Brand new, I picked up my 2023 CR-V sport touring and i'm amazed at the quiet, smoothness and fuel economy is amazing. Basically everything my 2017 Honda Civic Touring didn't do well, this does leaps and bounds better. Never would a Hyundai be on my radar. Remember you do get what you pay for. I can't get over how the Adaptive cruise now feels like it's a human modulating brakes and accelerator, even the rain sensing wipers which used to be psychotic at best on the civic work exactly as I would think they should. Personally I feel you made a mistake. But to each their own. Hyundai/Kia reached out to the germans for design, not engineering, that's why the optima sold so well because it finally didn't look like a Hyundai/Kia. Hyundai needs to focus on reliability before they make all these new models that have sub par engines and terrible electronics reliability. The failure rate of engines with Hyundai/Kia is still insane. Good thing they do come with a 100K warranty because you will definitely be using it. Also, when you do decide to get rid of that Hyundai, that's where you're going to see you get what you pay for, it won't hold its resale value at all. The fact that you have no experience of the 2023 CR-V I suggest you do not drive one, you'll absolutely regret buying that Hyundai.

 

As your title says: Went to the Dark Side --- Yes Indeed. Enjoy the new ride.

 

My grand daughters 2011 Kia Sorento has 187,000 miles - 2 AC Compressor Failures - no engine issues. I co-signed for her to get it. It was $4000 cheaper than the CR-V at that time with the same options.

Her are some video links to Honda CVT issues.

 

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I traded my blue 2017 CR-V for a beautiful black 2023 Hyundai

....OMG!!!.......somebody get a rope!!!!



Just kidding of course....hope you like it.

 

I did eye Hyundai when I was shopping due to technology+features+warranty, but the one thing that really stopped me dead in my tracks is the resale value.

 

I agree that when you make a 6 year jump in models, you are going to see a big difference in the car.

My 2023 CRV Sport Touring feels so much larger, heavier and more substantial than my 2015. The ride and handling is so much better also.
It's also light years ahead as far as tech... I was at the drive through window at the Burger Doodle in my new car and it "corrected" my order. It said, "I don't think so! .. he will have the salad and a water". I'm looking in the manual for how to disable the "old married couple" feature.

With each car in the segment, there are certain trade-offs. The CRV has good interior space, the Forester has great AWD, the Mazda is fun to drive, Rav4 gets the best gas mileage, etc.
I wanted good space, better gas milage - which I'm getting with the hybrid, and resale value. The '23 Sport Touring was the right combo for me - but I understand someone making a different choice for sure.

Congrats on your new ride. Come back after a year and let us know what your thoughts are - I would be curious.

 

OP, congrats on the new vehicle.

 

Now I have a A12 code on my dash and I've ignored it for like 5k miles. I'm same with Woodburn in that I didn't think CVT needs fluid change b/c it is belt driven (?). In any case, isn't the A12 for transmission fluid change? I'm confused.

 

A12 is for an oil change, tire rotation and air/cabin filter replacement, plus a few inspections. If the transmission is a CVT (i.e. not on a hybrid) it does need to be changed: that’s sub code 3.

 

Congrats OP on your new car. Thanks for the review and hope to see you again in the future.