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I see Car&Driver has weighed in now that everything is released.
Car&Driver by the way does not believe Honda will release the Hybrid version in the US market. But I question that assessment given it relies on drawing conclusions about specific statements from Honda about where they plan hybrids in their North America line-up (C&D believes only CRV, Accord, and Civic will get hybrid options, but honestly that does not make sense that the HRV gets excluded. I can certainly see Honda avoiding hybrid with the Passport/Pilot/Ridgeline, but not the HRV.
 
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Didn't really understood the logic of two different designs for same vehicle.

I liked the Europe front fascia with North American rear fascia.

The NA front reminds me of Ford escape, which I'm not a big fan of.

PS: I didn't really find any other thread to post the image ( image from car scoops ).
 
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Didn't really understood the logic of two different designs for same vehicle.
The EU HRV is built on a different Honda platform than the North America version. Hence they are actually two different unique releases by Honda. Confusing, and atypical for Honda, but likely this is because the EU version is EV ready and the NA version is not.

I liked the Europe front fascia with North American rear fascia.

The NA front reminds me of Ford escape, which I'm not a big fan of.
There are a number of brands using that form of grill work, not just Ford, and not just Honda.

To be clear though.. this is a general styling move by Honda on their new SUVs, beginning with the release of the Passport a few years go. The one on the new HRV is actually pretty unobtrusive compared to some

Here is what is going on... this particular grill work is being picked for SUV models that are being sold as "more rugged". In other words a cosmetic and marketing statement, though in fairness those mesh grills ARE more robuse and impervious to small strikes from road hazards so there is some sense to what Honda chose and why. The HRV is also targeted toward younger buyers and they generally like styling like this particular grill, even if us older folks are ambivalent or put off by it.

Personally, anything in the form of front grill is better than those massive "tractor scoop" designs Toyota/Lexus loves to put on their vehicles in recent years. :p
 
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After examining these photos closely, I’ve concluded it is pretty hideous, especially the exterior.

LOL, dont say that...

This machine is coming to the UK next year as the ZR-V!!
 
Thinking if trading my rdx in for the hrv then if /when they take my wifes work truck she takes the hrv and i get a prologue.

only meh part on the hrv is the transmission, watched a bunch of youtube videos n found one where he was driving around and engine n trans was hanging BAD!
 
After examining these photos closely, I’ve concluded it is pretty hideous, especially the exterior.
Anything specific, you care to share? :)

Is it that it just looks like a ho-hum entry level compact SUV? Because that is exactly what it is. :p

I think the interior and exterior styling are consistent with the new generation styling from Honda on it's new models AND a huge improvement from the prior generation HRV. The power train though... meh... not so sure Honda went far enough on the power train. It is interesting to note that the 2.0 engine in the new HRV is only nominally more power and torque than the older 1.8. It is also interesting that it is not a DI engine but as multiport injection engine. The CVT paired with it, so far no test drive info that I have seen. Hopefully this engine and CVT are better matched and electronically tuned and controlled so that it is not constantly racing the engine to find the torgue the CVT seeks (which was an issue on the last generation HRV).

What is interesting is every time a new SUV rolls out from Honda (this is not just Honda) internet pundits tend to compare and complain that SUV-X looks a lot like SUV-Y form a different brand. Clearly, computer design capabilities and focus on fuel economy dictates that most modern SUVs can and will look very similar, for the size class they reside in.

With Honda consolidating features and trim levels and looking for other opportunities to control cost and remain very competitive in the market vs competitors, I suspect we are going to see the entire Honda SUV lineup looking essentially like size based clones of each other on exterior design, and it will be power train and cabin interior features that vary the most as you move across the lineup.

All the modern SUVs on the road looking similar says the industry has reached diminishing returns on exterior design now for fuel economy and handling. So that leaves brands with challenges to make small changes to body styling to try to differentiate (seems to be the in thing to put sharp styling lines on the quarter panels for example right now). Sharp edges though have the benefit of looking aerodynamic to some buyers but they also provide better structural integrity while using thinner and lighter quarter panels too... so I bet this remains a trend to some degree.
 
Anything specific, you care to share? :)

Is it that it just looks like a ho-hum entry level compact SUV? Because that is exactly what it is. :p

I think the interior and exterior styling are consistent with the new generation styling from Honda on it's new models AND a huge improvement from the prior generation HRV. The power train though... meh... not so sure Honda went far enough on the power train. It is interesting to note that the 2.0 engine in the new HRV is only nominally more power and torque than the older 1.8. It is also interesting that it is not a DI engine but as multiport injection engine. The CVT paired with it, so far no test drive info that I have seen. Hopefully this engine and CVT are better matched and electronically tuned and controlled so that it is not constantly racing the engine to find the torgue the CVT seeks (which was an issue on the last generation HRV).

What is interesting is every time a new SUV rolls out from Honda (this is not just Honda) internet pundits tend to compare and complain that SUV-X looks a lot like SUV-Y form a different brand. Clearly, computer design capabilities and focus on fuel economy dictates that most modern SUVs can and will look very similar, for the size class they reside in.

With Honda consolidating features and trim levels and looking for other opportunities to control cost and remain very competitive in the market vs competitors, I suspect we are going to see the entire Honda SUV lineup looking essentially like size based clones of each other on exterior design, and it will be power train and cabin interior features that vary the most as you move across the lineup.

All the modern SUVs on the road looking similar says the industry has reached diminishing returns on exterior design now for fuel economy and handling. So that leaves brands with challenges to make small changes to body styling to try to differentiate (seems to be the in thing to put sharp styling lines on the quarter panels for example right now). Sharp edges though have the benefit of looking aerodynamic to some buyers but they also provide better structural integrity while using thinner and lighter quarter panels too... so I bet this remains a trend to some degree.
The front view look like an animated cartoon character, the wheel gap makes the wheels look grossly undersized, the stuck on iPad screen looks like an afterthought, the grill type dash screen looks like chicken wire, and the fabric seats just look cheap. Other than that, it’s OK.
 
With all the crazy used prices, I'm seriously thinking about getting my son a new car....Its insane...but the HRV was one of the first nameplates on his list. He's a classic 22...make that 23 this month millennial and this will be his first car. Others on the short list include the Corolla cross, RAC4, a cx30, Kona (sounds like a coffee at starbucks).
 
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With all the crazy used prices, I'm seriously thinking about getting my son a new car....Its insane...but the HRV was one of the first nameplates on his list. He's a classic 22...make that 23 this month millennial and this will be his first car. Others on the short list include the Corolla cross, RAC4, a cx30, Kona (sounds like a coffee at starbucks).
I think it would be a great choice for your son. In fact, it looks very much like Honda has designed the new North America version to specifically appeal to your son's generation.

The new HRV is on my short list for my daughter when she heads to college next year, as long as they offer it as a hybrid. In reality though, I bet my daughter ends up with a Toyota Corolla Cross, given how much of a discount her Mom gets from Toyota on leases and purchases of Toyota vehicles.
 
I think it would be a great choice for your son. In fact, it looks very much like Honda has designed the new North America version to specifically appeal to your son's generation.

The new HRV is on my short list for my daughter when she heads to college next year, as long as they offer it as a hybrid. In reality though, I bet my daughter ends up with a Toyota Corolla Cross, given how much of a discount her Mom gets from Toyota on leases and purchases of Toyota vehicles.
I've driven the new HRV. Its roomy and honestly feels like a budget version of my old 16 CRV. With updates like a better console and stuff like carplay (WOW Honda has made it into this century). There is a rough section of road right by the dealer and the road noise (and old Honda failing) was terrible. HRV lacks the CRV's get up and go, but that's to be expected with a 2.0 driving the CVT rather than the 2.4.

The Corolla Cross is impossible to find unsold. But I did drive the Mazda CX30. Sure its smaller than the HRV, but its a better put together package, at the same price point and feels like a class above.

I take him out to test drive both tomorrow, on his birthday.....
 
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We drove both or rather my son did. HRV lost out on noise, seat comfort etc. Additional dealer mark up at my local, Honda resulted in my standing up and walking out. GM called me.....on way to Mazda....

There's going to be a Mazda coming home soon.
 
We drove both or rather my son did. HRV lost out on noise, seat comfort etc. Additional dealer mark up at my local, Honda resulted in my standing up and walking out. GM called me.....on way to Mazda....

There's going to be a Mazda coming home soon.
It is very disappointing that Honda did not notably improve the new HRV for noise. THAT is a mistake in my view and will hurt sales in the long run when competing products offer quieter interior and driving.

Then again, I bet in 3 years most HRVs sold will be PHEV or even Electric... so maybe Honda does not see the merit in a quieter ICE version in coming years.
 
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