[williamsji]

CHR is wiping the floor with the rest of the CUVs over here. Mad sales.

I like it a lot but it's completely pointless for me and does not have a place in the cabin to put your phone to.

Interestingly, in the US market, sales of CHRs appears to be roughly in parity with Honda HRVs. ~50K a year in volume of sales. Small compared to both brands compact and midsize SUV/sedan market segments (Honda is the only brand that appears to still have a successful recipe for the compact and midsize sedan segments, but I wonder how long that can last as more people walk away from the sedan format.

But the important element is the subcompact CUV market is seen by multiple manufacturers as a big growth market in coming years. The blend of features, pricing, and styling appears to be a good product recipe for the younger driving crowd (think, those that would drive Civics, Corollas, etc) but in a more urban/sporty/small-CUV format.

So now this begs the question, with the HRV growing up and moving into the compact CUV space, what will Honda launch that moves directly into the sub-compact CUV segment. I think in general, this segment will be ripe for hybrid and EV power trains for the younger urban driving market segment. You don't suffer miles-2-empty anxiety in urban driving in any sensible situation, so for many urban commuters it can be a very popular vehicle segment in years to come, ICE, Hybrid, EV, etc.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

All-new 2023 Honda HR-V Teases Interior Versatility Geared for Adventure

Sporty and versatile, the all-new 2023 Honda HR-V is just the right size for young, active buyers looking for a fun driving experience and enough space and utility for an adventurous lifestyle.

hondanews.com

 

[williamsji]

They seem to be on a roll with the flashing screenshots placed into video.

Next up.. I bet a short flashing screenshot melange showing different human beings sitting in the front and back seats, and a few pets as well I am sure.

I want to see the front cabin interior... big time.

 

[blehargh]

Some videos of the 2023 HRV that has interior

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Looks like it's the 2.0L engine too (in the comments)

 

[williamsji]

Looks like it's the 2.0L engine too (in the comments)

The old HRV sports a 1.8L engine, and was under powered and noisy (probably searching endlessly to match the transmissions torque needs.

I wonder which 2.0L they are using in the new HRV, and what it's specs are. Also, is it designed for a CVT, or will yet another CVT implementation find the engine struggling and racing rpms to find enough torque to power the CVT forward smoothly and with ample power to the wheels?

 

[Lammmbda]

Really dig the rear design, not sure about the front. Reminds me of the new force escape for some reason… but I’m excited to see they have adopted the new gen civic dash layout !

 

[JB in AZ]

Really dig the rear design, not sure about the front. Reminds me of the new force escape for some reason… but I’m excited to see they have adopted the new gen civic dash layout !

I agree about the Escape similarity, at least in pictures.

 

[GG-CRV]

I assume pricing will increase a bit and needs to remain under $30k. I'm surprised as an EX-L model it lacks a power tailgate, rear vents, and rear USB ports.

 

[GG-CRV]

Chinese market interior:

 

[patruns]

Glad to see they used "normal" door handles on the rear doors.

Hmmm..... leather interior and no charging ports in the rear seating area?

Not a fan of the stand up display on the infotainment center.

 

[mrtn]

Not a fan of the stand up display on the infotainment center.

There aren't really alternatives to that layout in an upright seated vehicle.

 

[williamsji]

Glad to see they used "normal" door handles on the rear doors.

.....and no charging ports in the rear seating area?

For China built CRVs, I believe they put the charging ports in the center arm rest in the rear seat. They also on upscale trim include remote stereo controls and even a video screen. You fold down the center armrest and instant infotainment system at the rear passengers finger tips.
Wondering why? Because vehicles like CRVs are popular in use for hired car services, and they want the extra features in the rear of the cabin to support this for their clients.

 

[GG-CRV]

Videos of the new HR-V show it's arriving on dealer lots but some get taken down shortly after they're posted. Sounds like the embargo will lift soon.

2023 Honda HR-V EX-L

The poster has other videos posted as well but this one shows the window sticker. EX-L AWD tops out at $30,590.00 which is what I expected. Looks like AWD fuel economy is abysmal at 25 city/30 hwy and 27 combined. I'm hoping Honda will offer the 1.5 liter turbo or a hybrid in the near future for the North American market.

Also looks like Honda is denoting AWD with a decal/etch at the base of the rear window wiper just like the upcoming CR-V.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

All-New 2023 HR-V Boasts Sportier Design, More Responsive Powertrain, Upscale Cabin and Desirable Tech Features

Stylish and sporty with a roomy, feature-rich interior, the all-new 2023 Honda HR-V gains aspirational qualities beyond its segment. A larger, more responsive engine, an all-new platform with a smooth-riding independent rear suspension, and a clean, high-tech interior with standard digital...

hondanews.com

 

[GG-CRV]

All-New 2023 HR-V Boasts Sportier Design, More Responsive Powertrain, Upscale Cabin and Desirable Tech Features

Stylish and sporty with a roomy, feature-rich interior, the all-new 2023 Honda HR-V gains aspirational qualities beyond its segment. A larger, more responsive engine, an all-new platform with a smooth-riding independent rear suspension, and a clean, high-tech interior with standard digital...

hondanews.com

I knew it was coming! Glad the cat is out of the bag.

 

[williamsji]

From the Honda announcement:

HR-V's sleek flowing forms. Wide-set LED headlights and taillights highlight HR-V's increased width (2.6 inches wider) and broad-shouldered stance. Overall length has grown by 9.4 inches.

So the perceptions of viewing photos of the new HRV are correct, it is moving up to be almost CRV sized in the next generation. It is only two inches shorter than the gen5 CRV, less than one inch narrower, and three inches shorter. Wheel base increased as well, for more stable handling I imagine.

WOW... that is huge growth in exterior size from the last generation. Which makes sense given this new HRV is built on the Civic platform now (the prior generation was FIT platform based). FIT was retired, was an old platform, and so Honda uses the latest Civic platform as their starting point for the HRV. Probably still under powered though with the 2.0 ICE they are putting in it. But I gather Honda may push the HRV strongly into hybrid and maybe even an EV variant later on.

Begs the question as to how Honda differentiates their gen6 CRV given it is right between this larger HRV, and the Passport (ie: the short sized pilot ) Seems like the CRV is heading for a mid-size class niche at the pace Honda is moving here with sizing.

I did not see weight listed anywhere. But at those sizes, I imagine it is going to weigh in within a few hundred pounds of a CRV. Begs the question if that new power train choice is sufficient or not.... seems a bit on the weak side.

I see Honda is using the laser seam weld approach for the roof-line like they do on the Accords, which means no more ugly black plastic weld cover strips on top.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

So the perceptions of viewing photos of the new HRV are correct, it is moving up to be almost CRV sized in the next generation. It is only two inches shorter than the gen5 CRV, less than one inch narrower, and three inches shorter.

This US-model is coming to the UK/EU next year....badged as the ZR-V.

 

[mrtn]

Anything "Z" is frowned upon in Europe from now on tho.

 

[Mike728]

...WOW... that is huge growth in exterior size from the last generation. ...

And yet, cargo space didn't change at all. It actually went down slightly with the seats folded.

Edit: Should add the source.

"Of course the whole car is bigger, too, at 9.4 inches longer and 2.6 inches wider. This translates into a passenger area that should feel more spacious. But cargo space is nearly identical to the smaller outgoing model with 24.4 cubic feet of space behind the rear seats, and 55.1 cubic feet with the seats folded. The reason is the new HR-V does not get the old HR-V's "Magic Seat" in the back. By moving the gas tank under the front seats, the load floor and flat-folding back seat were extremely low, therefore providing far more cargo space than its exterior dimensions would suggest. The "Magic Seat" bottom also flipped up to free up floor space. We'll miss the versatility, but at least its volume is maintained."

LINK

 

[williamsji]

And yet, cargo space didn't change at all. It actually went down slightly with the seats folded.

Edit: Should add the source.

"Of course the whole car is bigger, too, at 9.4 inches longer and 2.6 inches wider. This translates into a passenger area that should feel more spacious. But cargo space is nearly identical to the smaller outgoing model with 24.4 cubic feet of space behind the rear seats, and 55.1 cubic feet with the seats folded. The reason is the new HR-V does not get the old HR-V's "Magic Seat" in the back. By moving the gas tank under the front seats, the load floor and flat-folding back seat were extremely low, therefore providing far more cargo space than its exterior dimensions would suggest. The "Magic Seat" bottom also flipped up to free up floor space. We'll miss the versatility, but at least its volume is maintained."

LINK

Yeah the old generation is on the FIT platform, which indeed had the fold flat seats as that was part of the original platform design. It's probably problematic (would need a platform variant, at a time when Honda is trying to reduce proliferations of variables like this) to try to do that on the new Civic platform they are putting the new HRV on.

So yeah, no real growth in cargo area, yet the HRV still provides more than it's main competitors in the class, and I think that in conjunction with the Civic platform would require platform changes to incorporate the magic seat approach, Honda deemed more cargo space to be unnecessary, but wanted very much to improve the space and dimensions of the front and rear cabin seating.

I see that Honda has the actual sales page up this afternoon here: 2023 Honda HR-V – The Modern SUV | Honda And now we have the weight specs (3158-3333 lbs, depending on configuration/trim). Impressive, as that is only about 200 lbs heavier than the old generation, and yet the vehicle is notably larger.

Cabin looks great! I see a lot of Civic in that interior, so it appears Honda is true to their promise to better harmonize across it's models, and reduce the number of trim levels and other regional variances as much as possible.