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There is no oil dilution issues on the 2020s.

The temp gauge will not increase at idle. The car needs to be driven before it will increase.

 

finalized deal yesterday afternoon ; today is my first 13 km commute to work in my gen 5 2020 .its minus 7 celcius so I'll use remote start for a 5-7 minute warm up then away we go .......

 

so , no problemo this morning . nice and toasty and the temp gauge was in the middle of the cold/hot range within a few kilometers of 80 kmph speed .I checked the oil before leaving the dealership for an initial reference point (right at F) and I'll check it at some point in coming weeks .

that might be the last cold spring morning we get here in northern ontario for awhile thats below 0 celcius

 

There is actually a large benefit in remote starting the vehicle for 5-7min when cold. But more than 10min there is not much gain and not recommended. Here is a previous thread on my testing.

Benefits of Remote-Start in cold weather

 

There is actually a large benefit in remote starting the vehicle for 5-7min when cold. But more than 10min there is not much gain and not recommended. Here is a previous thread on my testing.

Benefits of Remote-Start in cold weather

Long idles are not good for any car as this can cause excess fuel, if temps are cool, your engine is in a rich fuel mode which can cause some fuel to by-pass the rings and dilute crankcase oil.

 

Lets start with my first bad experience which I do not like about my CRV is the warm up issue. I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom. It seems like HONDA does not fix this issue for 2020 and I am worried about Oil Dilution problem coming this winter.

There is no issue here. With a remote start, the CRV engine will begin to warm up, but not reach operating temperature until driven. If you continue to idle past 10 minutes continuously you WILL experience some OD. Just remote start for about 5min, put gear in S mode and drive this way for a couple of Km if you want to speed things up when it's really cold. You will have warm air blowing into your cabin in no time at all. Place gear back in D and enjoy your ride.

 

Hi guys
I just bought my Honda CRV 2020 last week. I think a lot of members here do have the same year CRV. If you have a problem your CRV 2020 ,please share and how did you deal with it. I would love to hear. 😊❤

Lets start with my first bad experience which I do not like about my CRV is the warm up issue. I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom. It seems like HONDA does not fix this issue for 2020 and I am worried about Oil Dilution problem coming this winter.

Thanks

Allowing your V to warm up/idle for that long is only hurting the fuel economy. Give it one, maybe two minutes max and then drive it. It won't fully warm up until it's moving.

This is totally normal for the Gen 5.

 

Here in the UK, the advice is this:

Start up, drive off. No wait times needed.

Saying that, over winter, the CR-V was warm and toasty within minutes. The joys of an ICE!

 

Have had my 2020 since December. My only issue is the calibration of the interior temperature control is off by over 3 degrees C.
ie when I set it at 17 degrees C (63 degrees F), the interior temperature is at least 20 degrees C (68 degrees F). Kind of annoying as my other vehicles have always been right on. Will eventually have the dealer look at it, maybe a sensor can be replaced?

 

I have same issue in my 20' ex-l right off the showroom floor except mine seems more like at least 5 degrees difference. I spoke to the dealer and they said all/ alot of Hondas are like this. I'm not accepting that, has to be a sensor, control board something. Also my passenger headlamp and hood seal have a gap. Drivers side is OK. That is something you'd see on an old vehicle not in 2020! I also hear a slight bang noise when turning. I'm wondering whats going on with this vehicle. It's a HONDA, not suppose to belike this.

 

I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom.

It has been reported in other topics that the temperature gauge bottom mark is about 130F or 54C.

 

Hi guys
I just bought my Honda CRV 2020 last week. I think a lot of members here do have the same year CRV. If you have a problem your CRV 2020 ,please share and how did you deal with it. I would love to hear. 😊❤

Lets start with my first bad experience which I do not like about my CRV is the warm up issue. I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom. It seems like HONDA does not fix this issue for 2020 and I am worried about Oil Dilution problem coming this winter.

Thanks

This is a clear case of owner expectations not being in sync with how normal operation works.

1) the temperature gauge is in no way linear, so do not treat it like it is. You will not see the first tick mark on the temp gauge until the engine has reached ~140 degrees F (plenty warm). You will have warm cabin heat before the first tick mark even shows. Each tick mark after that represents ~ 5 degrees increase until the gauge reaches normal drive temp (just under the half way mark) and represents about 175 degrees F. Once the engine as full running temperature.. the gauge literally will not move further up the tick marks, even as the engine temp approches 200 F ... unless/until the engine advances to an over temp condition (which is pretty well impossible for this engine, unless something with the cooling system is broken). The gauge is more of a three point temperature indicator, not a linear gauge. The data here has all been confirmed by owners on this site by monitoring actual engine temperature with an OBDII reader.

2) This engine is extremely efficient thermally, and idles at extremely low fuel injection levels. As such.. the engine will not reach full and normal operating temperature sitting idle, unless it is literally 100 degrees ambient outside. But again, keep in mind number 1 above.

Since the 2019s, and I think even some 2018s, all the updates to the ECU and cabin heating issues in earlier production models are applied at the factory. And with the rollout of those updates, either in the field, or at the factory before shipment... the incidence of cold engines and poor cabin heating has largely been resolved.

Now, a question for you... where are you located that you feel the need to put your CRV through a 10 minute warmup cycle in late spring? The best practice with this engine, even in cold weather is to just get in, start it, and drive away. Warming up the engine for 10 minutes simply burns fuel for no real benefit. The only time to run a warm up cycle would be in a cold weather location in winter.. so you have cabin heat before you drive. Even then.. the best practice is to install a block heater in very cold weather conditions and simply come out to a warm engine when you want to drive. You can use the built in warm up feature in lieu of a block heater.... but again.. not the best practice for this engine... just the most convenient perhaps.

 

Block heaters are a must in my part of Canada so no worries there .never owned a vehicle without one .my general rule on plugging it in is minus 15 celcius or colder . Maybe with this sensitive engine I’ll change to minus 10

 

I was plugging mine in whenever it got below -5C, and sometimes as high as 0C. Just for the comfort of having warm air blow on my face just two blocks down the road

 

We have a 2018 EX-L, live in NJ, and frankly laugh at the folks with heat problems. Car is toasty and warm all winter!

 

We have a 2018 EX-L, live in NJ, and frankly laugh at the folks with heat problems. Car is toasty and warm all winter!

Real nice. Do you also laugh at people broken down on the side of the road, because your vehicle is still running?

 

Hi guys
I just bought my Honda CRV 2020 last week. I think a lot of members here do have the same year CRV. If you have a problem your CRV 2020 ,please share and how did you deal with it. I would love to hear. 😊❤

Lets start with my first bad experience which I do not like about my CRV is the warm up issue. I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom. It seems like HONDA does not fix this issue for 2020 and I am worried about Oil Dilution problem coming this winter.

Thanks

From everything I've read and heard, trying to warm up an engine by idling is not a good idea. Driving it below highway speeds for the first few miles is the best way to get it to operating temperature.
I can understand maybe wanting the interior to be nice and toasty on a cold winter day, but that shouldn't take the place of a proper warm-up of the engine.

 

Hi guys
I just bought my Honda CRV 2020 last week. I think a lot of members here do have the same year CRV. If you have a problem your CRV 2020 ,please share and how did you deal with it. I would love to hear. 😊❤

Lets start with my first bad experience which I do not like about my CRV is the warm up issue. I start my car 10 mins before drive and the heating meter is still at the bottom. It seems like HONDA does not fix this issue for 2020 and I am worried about Oil Dilution problem coming this winter.

Thanks

Yes there are still oil dilution issues and it doesn't have to be cold to have the problem, just keep an eye on your oil level..

 

OD issues on the 2020 CR-V's? I think not. Its been cured.

Unless you have evidence to the contrary? I've certainly not seen any OD issues on even MY2019 CR-V's.

 

Same here. Since the lockdown in the UK, I have driven probably 100 miles - nearly all trips of less than 2 miles at a time.

No issue with the oil at all.

In fact, I dont ever recall seeing ANY oil dilution issues on any UK CR-V (1.5T).

 

^^^ good points. I've been thinking about replacing my gen 2.5. But I don't need to. My problem is that I can't trust Honda to tell me if the issue is fixed. I have to rely on these forum discussions to decide for myself if the issue is fixed. I also note that the anti-trust litigation is settled by Honda, so that tells me there was a problem.

My only issue with my 05 has been the airbag recall, and that experience did not instill confidence in Honda. My trips to the dealer summed up; Your airbags are fine, we said your airbags are fine, yes fine, OK the drivers is bad but we don't have parts, yes only the drivers, we said it is all fixed, OK the passenger is bad, come back in, but we don't have parts again. (the dealer as on my commute to work so I tended to pester them, because; working airbag---Good, working grenade---Bad)

 

^^^ good points. I've been thinking about replacing my gen 2.5. But I don't need to. My problem is that I can't trust Honda to tell me if the issue is fixed. I have to rely on these forum discussions to decide for myself if the issue is fixed. I also note that the anti-trust litigation is settled by Honda, so that tells me there was a problem.

just to note.. it was NOT an anti-trust suit.. it was the usual legal firms that love to troll the internet for customer complaints and then try to form a "class action" against a manufacturer. Their motivation here is a big chunk of fees if they are able to settle or get an court ruling "in favor". The individual owners actually did not receive anything Honda had not already provided to said owners.

Honda, like many firms... settled the suit to end the ability of said law firms to keep milking "billable hours and other fees" from the suit. It also allows everyone to put it behind everyone.

As for your poor experience with the local dealer about airbag recalls... given there were literally tens of millions of recalls across a range of manufacturers... none of what you portrayed is surprising.... most especially the issue of even if your VIN qualfied for recall service.. parts shortages pushed out any such actual service for millions of owners. In reality, unless you lived in a perpetually hot and humid state, your airbag integrity was likely fine.. since it was hot humid temperatures that degraded the chemicals in the airbags such that they could become unstable and detonate without sensors instructing them to do so. I would not fault your dealer, or Honda for the protracted cycles of remedy... I would however blame the company that sourced airbags to many vehicle manufacturers for years and had to literally be forced by manufacturers and regulatory firms to come clean and provide replacement parts. Said firm (Takata) of course, filed for bankruptcy protections, which further disrupted remedies to manufacturers and vehicle owners.

Note: according to NHTSA, 63 million vehicles, across virtually all brands and models were impacted by the Takata airbag scandal. Takata Recall Spotlight

 

Ok attached the pics.

 

Take it to the dealer and have the defect corrected... regardless of cause. That is why you have a 3/36 bumper to bumper warranty. If one dealer straight arms you.. take it to another dealer or contact Honda Customer Support.

 

Looks like the bonnet (sorry, hood!) could do with some alignment.

 

Yeah.. that is the conclusion I drew from the photos as well. Odd however, considering how the hood on the gen5 is designed.. so it may be an optical illusion for us looking at the photos... the lighting and actual area of each photo are different. Need to see the bottom surface of the headlight assemly as well as a full front view in bright lighting to tell for sure.

 

The days of 'warming up' the engine before driving have long been gone. With today's tolerances and lubrications you're just wasting gas. Start your engine up and gently drive away. Certainly let the drive line warm up before you start asking it to perform above a normal range.

 

Get a picture from a bit of a distance. Your last pics were just a tad too close to discern the issue properly.

 

Wwll I thought I took one but dont see it now. Gotta retake. Will try tomorrow, Wed 6-3-20

 

One comment I remember from the first dealer sponsored Get-To-Know-Your-New-Honda seminar I attended back in 1996.

If you have parked your car with the windows closed, the air inside your car will always be hotter than the air outside. Outside is 85, but the inside may be 105. Easiest and fastest way to cool your car is to turn on your A/C, turn off air recirc and open a couple of windows for the first 3 or 4 minutes [weather i.e. not raining, permitting, of course]. This forces out the hotter inside air. After the 3 or 4 minutes are up, close the windows and turn on air recirc. Your car will be cooler faster no matter what temp you want it to be.

 

I am really worried about the OD. I literally bought the car last month, and have not experienced any issues. Has Honda made any upgrades to the engine for 2020 models? I plan on driving the car for 10+ years.

 

Here’s the pic. Hard to tell much of difference in this pic though.

 

I can see the difference when I expand it. They should be able to realign this. Can you see much of a variance between the left and right side of the hood? If they are the same, better take some photos in advance as they may just drop one side To match the front and throw the side out.

 

That looks like a pretty simple adjustment. The hood latches are meant to be adjustable so just press hard on your dealer to sort it out.

 

Oh I will. I'm finicky with this stuff! Just surprised I have 3 issues on a brand new vehicle , let alone a Honda. A/C inside cabin temp on display compared to actual inside cabin temp and a slight knock, banging noise over some bumps or when turning being the other 2. Oh also the self steer could be improved too I guess though not sure if that's how they are or if its just not working right either.

 

Of course. I would think about everyone on here would like to know, I know I would.

 

I just start it up, wait 30 seconds or so, and drive off. Modern vehicles don't need much more than that. While the PCM will adjust for air/fuel ratio, there is no point of warming it up for awhile -- unless you're parked outside in the cold -- but even without a remote start, there is no harm in starting it up and waiting for 30 seconds or so and driving off. On my wife's 2012 and on my 2016, they both warm up on the highway rather than at idle. My wife's 2012 has remote start, but I never felt that need -- but I'll take it if it comes with the truck lol. They will never get to operating temperature at idle -- not the 2012, not the 2016, not any newer Honda... just drive it