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Hard to imagine the change in tires is solely responsible for a 15 - 20% drop in mileage. FWIW, my Nokian Hakkapelita winter tires generally return slightly better mileage than the stock all-season Continentals, likely due to the winter tires' Low Rolling Resistance design. The difference between the two is certainly nowhere near 20%. The tradeoff is a slightly rougher ride over smaller pavement imperfections and cracks due to stiffer sidewalls.
 
Didn't affect my daily driver's gas mileage (not a CR-V but similar weight and size) even a bit. CC not CC2 but the tires are pretty much identical.
Ok. But this is the CR-V forum not whatever you have. This is a 2021 Hybrid with the purchase and installation by a certified Honda dealership. Good for you. I can't wait for April to get back to the standard-issue Honda CR-V Hybrid.
 
I bought Michelin Cross Climate 2 tires put them on my Honda CR-V Hybrid Touring and the gas mileage dropped significantly from 40 mpg to 34. If I had known this would happen I would NEVER bought them. Avoid this tire at all costs and get snow tires if need be. I don't spend more on buying a hybrid to get fleeced by these tires and yes, the car is in Economy mode!
Put a set of CC2’s on my 2020 CR-V EX L. Didn’t change mileage at all.
 
Good to hear. Is this in cold weather like we have in the upper Midwest? It started to drop in temperatures in the low 40's to upper 20's.
Well we’re in north central PA. We’ve had some cold weather already. Some 30’s and overnight 20’s, a day of 2” snow. Haven’t been able to test the CC2s in deep snow yet. I have about 1000 miles on the tires. I like them a lot. As I said, no change in mileage.
I have a 2021 Ridgeline I’m considering put a set of Hankook Kinergy 4s2s on it. Very similar to the CC2s but not as expensive. Consumer Report gives them a high rating.
 
Well we’re in north central PA. We’ve had some cold weather already. Some 30’s and overnight 20’s, a day of 2” snow. Haven’t been able to test the CC2s in deep snow yet. I have about 1000 miles on the tires. I like them a lot. As I said, no change in mileage.
I have a 2021 Ridgeline I’m considering put a set of Hankook Kinergy 4s2s on it. Very similar to the CC2s but not as expensive. Consumer Report gives them a high rating.
Thank you. Guess the car's going back to the dealer. Much appreciated.
 
No MPG drop with my CC2s on my 2017 AWD Touring. This will be the second rainy season with them and it truly feels like I'm not even driving in the heavy rain with these tires. On top of that they remain great in the dry on winding roads and also have been wearing great so far. Highly recommended especially over the stock Hankooks.
 
first and foremost, temps in the 20s will affect mileage no matter what tire you have on the car. secondly, have you checked the tire pressures? don't matter who installed them. have you checked the pressures to ensure they are at least set at minimum pressures?

i do believe that hybrids get significantly lower mileage in colder temps than they do in the warmer temps. and to confirm this, a quick google search backs this up.

so, it's probably not the tires. it's a myriad of other issues, tires not being one of them.
 
i recently got the cross climate 2's for my rdx and they are awesome... awaiting snow.
as for mpg loss, havent seen any... way too many variables for mpg loss in cars now... could be winter gas, pressure, loads during a fillup, stop and go traffic.. no full tank is identical.

Unless you're losing MASSIVE mpg gotta chalk it up to life
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I have a set of snows for my 2020 Hybrid and I do see some loss of mileage but not bad. what will kill mileage is turning on the heat, this keeps the engine running to heat the coolant to warm up the car, this will prevent the car from going into EV mode for better mileage. Drove our hybrid to Pensacola from NY last week , first half was in the 30s to low 40s and saw the mileage in the 32 -35 or so, second half in 60 deg weather the mileage went back to 40s, this is with the snow tires mounted.
 
I have a set of snows for my 2020 Hybrid and I do see some loss of mileage but not bad. what will kill mileage is turning on the heat, this keeps the engine running to heat the coolant to warm up the car, this will prevent the car from going into EV mode for better mileage. Drove our hybrid to Pensacola from NY last week , first half was in the 30s to low 40s and saw the mileage in the 32 -35 or so, second half in 60 deg weather the mileage went back to 40s, this is with the snow tires mounted.
I agree running the ICE for heat kills mileage, and prevents the car from going into EV mode.
But I have to disagree with you that using EV mode results in better mileage, it doesn't.
ALL of the hybrid's energy comes from burning gasoline. Regenerative braking allows you to recover some of that energy, but not all.
Using electricity "fresh from the generator" is more efficient than storing it in a battery and then using it later.
Manually selecting EV mode would probably reduce your mileage, as it interferes with the car's energy management.
I'm not even sure why EV mode exists, the only use I can think of is if you want to be silent, but of course the robotic chorus makes that hard.
I don't use any "modes", the only exception being I use Sport mode to warm up the ICE faster if it's really cold.
 
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I need to share today's experience re CrossClimates.

I needed to run some errands and picked my daily driver with CrossClimates. It had been snowing all day (-5°C). I realized in a minute that it's not going to work, I was sliding all over the place with no grip whatsoever. Took the car back home and got the CR-V with actual snow tires. CC are not snow capable tires, not even remotely. Not happening.
 
I need to share today's experience re CrossClimates.

I needed to run some errands and picked my daily driver with CrossClimates. It had been snowing all day (-5°C). I realized in a minute that it's not going to work, I was sliding all over the place with no grip whatsoever. Took the car back home and got the CR-V with actual snow tires. CC are not snow capable tires, not even remotely. Not happening.
Your experience seems to be in the minority.
 
I need to share today's experience re CrossClimates.

I needed to run some errands and picked my daily driver with CrossClimates. It had been snowing all day (-5°C). I realized in a minute that it's not going to work, I was sliding all over the place with no grip whatsoever. Took the car back home and got the CR-V with actual snow tires. CC are not snow capable tires, not even remotely. Not happening.
What is your DD? Is it in the same category as the CR-V?
 
Your experience seems to be in the minority.
Not at all. The US has been exposed to snow tires for just past few years as it looks based on automotive fora. So many drivers in the US snow belt (even on this board) are still using All-Seasons and chains in winter. The ones who have gotten real snow tires (Hakkapeliittas and Blizzaks and X-ICEs, etc) will never go back. This guy in the video is going from All-Seasons (which are essentially summer tires with a bit deeper and wider gaps between tread blocks but not necessarily) to CrossClimates which are just All-Seasons with 3PMSF. Naturally he would go nuts over these because CC and CC2 are the best All-Seasons (or All-Climates) available and if you come from summer tires you would be all over it. However they are nowhere near actual snow tires meant for permanent snow coverage/freezing temperatures. The compound is still rock hard in cold and there are no sipes in tread blocks for multiplying the grip or flex for self cleaning.

We have had snow tire mandate from Dec to March since forever (I think there was none when I got my first car from Finland in 1990 but this had studded Nokians in the trunk). It's for public and personal safety. Views like you have in American news where there are massive pileups on freeways never happen here because you remain in control with real snow tires. Now they are looking to ban Central European variants. Central and Western Europe experiences more US East Coast like mild winter with little or no permanent snow/freezing temps due to Atlantic effect so their snow tires are aimed at less grip and more mileage whereas Nordic compound is aimed at max grip only with the downside of having less service time. I have sometimes made conscious decisions and bought Central European compound rubber for some of my cars which I use for covering large distances (Pan-European trips) in warmer winters and there's a noticeable difference. I do have a winter set of Kumho KW31 for this particular car which I will install in place of the CC next week, have not had the time yet. These Kumhos are quite hard and long-lasting but still beat CC by a long margin in winter use.

Our regional car magazine does substantial snow tire tests every Autumn in Lapland, in real cold weather, not on an artificial snow track. So when snow reaches the larger audience down South everyone can make an intelligent decision to pick a suitable set.
This magazine is known as the one to expose tire manufacturers tricking the tests by sending modified sets to tests. A well known case was Nokian who did this and was caught by the test team red handed. The tires were just too good to be true so they verified it with a neutral set. Now the testers always buy their own sets for testing, off the shelf to mitigate trickery.

I attach the last result page where they had included CC for lulz. Naturally it came last with zero stars together with Ukranian snow tires. A rough translation which says exactly what the tires are really like. Even tho it was praised for the best dry/wet performance it still came dead last because it's just so bad in snow/ice:

On ice CC longitudinal braking grip is non-existent and sad in acceleration. What's even more sad is the tire's behavior. It slips continuously with no control whatsoever. Snow grip is a little better but steering is still poor regardless the 3PMSF marking.
On asphalt CC clears the table as expected from a summer tire. Braking distance is from a class of its own and control on both dry and wet pavement is perfect. Easy to keep control during quick overtaking.
CC has average tracking capability in grooves but rolling resistance is high.
GOOD: asphalt performance

BAD: Winter performance, rolling resistance

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Not at all. The US has been exposed to snow tires for just past few years as it looks based on automotive fora. So many drivers in the US snow belt (even on this board) are still using All-Seasons and chains in winter. The ones who have gotten real snow tires (Hakkapeliittas and Blizzaks and X-ICEs, etc) will never go back. This guy in the video is going from All-Seasons (which are essentially summer tires with a bit deeper and wider gaps between tread blocks but not necessarily) to CrossClimates which are just All-Seasons with 3PMSF. Naturally he would go nuts over these because CC and CC2 are the best All-Seasons (or All-Climates) available and if you come from summer tires you would be all over it. However they are nowhere near actual snow tires meant for permanent snow coverage/freezing temperatures. The compound is still rock hard in cold and there are no sipes in tread blocks for multiplying the grip or flex for self cleaning.

We have had snow tire mandate from Dec to March since forever (I think there was none when I got my first car from Finland in 1990 but this had studded Nokians in the trunk). It's for public and personal safety. Views like you have in American news where there are massive pileups on freeways never happen here because you remain in control with real snow tires. Now they are looking to ban Central European variants. Central and Western Europe experiences more US East Coast like mild winter with little or no permanent snow/freezing temps due to Atlantic effect so their snow tires are aimed at less grip and more mileage whereas Nordic compound is aimed at max grip only with the downside of having less service time. I have sometimes made conscious decisions and bought Central European compound rubber for some of my cars which I use for covering large distances (Pan-European trips) in warmer winters and there's a noticeable difference. I do have a winter set of Kumho KW31 for this particular car which I will install in place of the CC next week, have not had the time yet. These Kumhos are quite hard and long-lasting but still beat CC by a long margin in winter use.

Our regional car magazine does substantial snow tire tests every Autumn in Lapland, in real cold weather, not on an artificial snow track. So when snow reaches the larger audience down South everyone can make an intelligent decision to pick a suitable set.
This magazine is known as the one to expose tire manufacturers tricking the tests by sending modified sets to tests. A well known case was Nokian who did this and was caught by the test team red handed. The tires were just too good to be true so they verified it with a neutral set. Now the testers always buy their own sets for testing, off the shelf to mitigate trickery.

I attach the last result page where they had included CC for lulz. Naturally it came last with zero stars together with Ukranian snow tires. A rough translation which says exactly what the tires are really like. Even tho it was praised for the best dry/wet performance it still came dead last because it's just so bad in snow/ice:

On ice CC longitudinal braking grip is non-existent and sad in acceleration. What's even more sad is the tire's behavior. It slips continuously with no control whatsoever. Snow grip is a little better but steering is still poor regardless the 3PMSF marking.
On asphalt CC clears the table as expected from a summer tire. Braking distance is from a class of its own and control on both dry and wet pavement is perfect. Easy to keep control during quick overtaking.
CC has average tracking capability in grooves but rolling resistance is high.
GOOD: asphalt performance

BAD: Winter performance, rolling resistance

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Whatever. Different strokes for etc.

As far as CC2 rubber compound, there is this:
What are the features of the Michelin CrossClimate 2?
As an all-season tire, Michelin designed the CrossClimate 2 to be drivable in winter and summer.
To achieve that, the company utilized the Thermal Adaptive rubber compound. It softens up the tire in winter without causing damage to it in the summer. The technology is also responsible for providing excellent grip in wet and dry conditions.
 
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