It would be very expensive even if it can be done.Kind of ridiculous.

Why not just make sure you turn the CR-V off?

 

Yes, the problem seems to be...how to put this gently?...not so much with the car.

 

Much like a PEBKAC or an I - D - 10 - T error with a PC, is that what you are alluding too MG?

 

You intentionally left the car running because your girlfriend was still in the car. If you would have had a regular key rather than the push button start, you would have done the same thing. The only difference was that there would have been a key in the ignition when you came out. I have had push button start since 2011. Both of them (Kia Optima and Honda CRV) always gave me a distinctive chime when I got out of the car with it running. I think you could have been better off with push button start if you had been paying attention.

 

Make a habit to keep the key in the pocket Not in the car just like the old day turn off the headlight before turn off the key.

 

I will not purchase a car with the unsafe push button start. I want a key to turn to accessory - run - start. It seems that car makers want electronics that will fail after a few years ( yes it does fail - stuff that can last for years cost too much to make ) and soon there will be millions of late model vehicles in junkyards because the computer part they need has not been made for 5 or 6 years and the electronic fad of those years is incompatible with the fads of the cars that are now being made.

Remember 8 tracks then cassettes then cd's - you don't get any of those in new cars any more. you better have your music in mp3 format.

It is going to be fun to watch everything go obsolete because it is this years fad. Soon you will have a new cell phone that cannot talk to your 2 year old car.

Remember that all the original On-star cars became boat anchors when cell phone changed from analog to digital. the replacement On-star units were $2000 if they made one for your model car.

Thankfully that technology has made cars with push button start easy to steal, so I predict it will go away soon and an optional dealer push button start will be made available.

 

I will not purchase a car with the unsafe push button start. I want a key to turn to accessory - run - start. It seems that car makers want electronics that will fail after a few years ( yes it does fail - stuff that can last for years cost too much to make ) and soon there will be millions of late model vehicles in junkyards because the computer part they need has not been made for 5 or 6 years and the electronic fad of those years is incompatible with the fads of the cars that are now being made.

Remember 8 tracks then cassettes then cd's - you don't get any of those in new cars any more. you better have your music in mp3 format.

It is going to be fun to watch everything go obsolete because it is this years fad. Soon you will have a new cell phone that cannot talk to your 2 year old car.

Besides our CR-V, we have a 10 year old Camry with push button start. Never had a single problem with it. Also, I just bought a 2017 cell phone which paired with and works flawlessly with the Bluetooth in that car.

 

key fob is always in the pocket , and i know we screwed up , but creature of habit is to take the key out for us and hit the remote start before doing so so the car runs for 10 mins. the push button is plain annoying imo . even starting the car from the house , unlock the doors and it turns off and has to be restarted. installing a keyed ignition cant be that much, an ignition with chipped keys is $250 for parts if it needs to be replaced.

 

Make a small change in your habit so you can adapt to new thing. It's not that hard. I am old and forgetful so I put a note in my car with this:
-Turn off the car
-Engage parking brake
-Make sure the door is locked

 

orrrrr..... customize the car to how i want it based on personal preference . i see i will digging up harness and pin connectors already . hopefully i can bolt it right in and its the same harness , if not then i have to pass.

 

Unfortunately, even if you are successful in wiring up a new key fob I would suspect this would violate some portion of the warranty.

 

And you would be wrong. If the OP is successful the only way a warranty claim could be legally denied is if it was directly related to changing out the push button start.

I don't know of any cars with lane-keeping systems that absolutely force you to stay in your lane if you don't signal. Our cars will beep at you and wiggle the steering wheel, but won't override any input the driver makes.

Absolutely correct! Lane keeping systems ASSIST but the driver is still in control and has the ability to change lanes at will with or without a turn signal. Warning will sound and steering wheel will wiggle but the system will not prevent steering input. If some moron hit the guardrail it is because they are an idiot, not too uncommon today.

 

like i said , hoping the harness clip is somehow the same , if so would just need the actiual ignition and new dash trim.... after that if its ever in for service , "WHAT DO YOU MEAN PUSH BUTTON ?? THATS THE WAY IT CAME!" and leave it at that

 

Like someone else mentioned, the same thing would have happened if your CR-V had a key. This technology has been around for a while and has held up quite well. Pay attention and don't pass blame. Accountability seems to be a lost trait.

 

On the mark!!! I believe Webster is removing the word "accountability" from the dictionary. Lack of usage problem. It's not MY fault, blame Webster--whoever he is!

 

who said i should take fault ???? OH WAIT , I DID SAY IT WAS MY MISTAKE. i dont like the push button start therefore want to put in a keyed ignition if possible. simple. ive never left keys in any car before. creature of habit , what ever you would like to call it. will i never do it again , most definitely not , do i still want push button ? no.

 

It's your car...do what you want to it...if it doesn't work out, oh well, you tried...if it does, good for you.
Be responsible, be aware...
It's always easy to criticize others...harder to look in the mirror and see it also applies to you in some form or other...

 

Four decades working in the auto industry, I have heard it all:

I don't want an automatic transmission, they will break down soon and be expensive to fix.
I don't want seat belts...they mess up my clothes and I could get trapped in the car in an accident!
I don't want air bags, they could kill me if they went off at the wrong time.
I don't want antilock brakes, I can work the brakes better myself and they will just break down and be expensive to fix.
I don't want fuel injection. Its just a fad, its electronic and will break down and be expensive to fix. Cars will always have carburetors.
And how about Henry Ford himself: "Why would I change a perfect car?" (He didn't want to change the Model T as he felt no one could ever improve upon it...and he nearly went out of business!)

Fact: when we changed cars over to fully computer controlled systems like body controls, we had a 90% reduction in warranty costs as the computerized systems were actually simpler and had fewer mechanical breakdowns.
Fact: Mechanical ignition switches have been problematic for years due to the wear on their internal contacts. Push to start is NOT a fad any more than EFI, computerized controllers, etc. Its progress.

 

BEST post yet

 

2 of my 4 cars have push button starts. Push button start is one of those nice things that make perfect sense.
I like central door locking to. Especially having grown up without it.....
Happy to say goodbye to CD changers and hello to iphones usb connections etc.

 

Look hard enough and you can still probably find a 74 LaSabre or 82 Le Baron. No gizmos or fancy doo dads to deal with. Might could even find one with an 8 track player. If you don't want high tech don't buy any car newer than 25 yrs old.

 

I say trade the car while they are still in demand and buy something you want with a key.

If you must have a 2017 CRV with a key, add a keyswitch to the circuit such that it won't start unless it is engaged. The switch can be over to the side leaving the existing pushbutton circuit as is. Should be simple if you already put in a Viper remote in the car.

 

I like pushbutton start, but what I don't like is the uncovered pushbutton that turns the car off. I wish there were a flip-up cover on the start button, so it takes more intent to activate it. Why? Because it's too easy to turn the car off while driving with one's eyes on the road, intending to turn the audio system on or off by pressing the volume knob.

Yeah, turning the car off by accident is kinda stupid, but it would be so easy to design the car so it's less likely.

And no, I've never turned mine off while actually moving, but have a couple of times while at a stoplight.

 

And no, I've never turned mine off while actually moving, but have a couple of times while at a stoplight.

Wow, somebody really needs to pay more attention while he's driving!

 

Because easy button

 

My stepson said it best: He told me there was one thing he hated about the key-less entry and the push button starter.....they have spoiled him so badly he doesn't like driving his other two cars that don't have it because he has to fumble around with keys.

I agree with him 100%

 

In the industry we always said, "no matter how fool proof you made it the fools would outwit you every time". I have heard of examples of people accidentally turning off their cars with the key while driving. (People hang a lot of junk on their key rings and it hangs down and they catch it, twisting the key off) That, BTW, also locked up the steering wheel. Of course we all know of examples of ignition switches that failed and turned cars off while driving (ask GM about that...and they are not the only ones who have had problems).

I can not believe comments people make about Honda not caring if they put their customers lives in danger just because they didn't make a button work the way you think it should work. And, as for putting a "safety cover" over it...no way, especially after the problem Toyota had with the "run away" cars.

And for the record a friend of mine who works at NASA Marshall SFC worked with the investigation team that studied the Toyota problem. Guess what their findings were on the alleged run away cars. They found that people did NOT turn their cars off or put them in neutral when they panicked. They were, get this, afraid of hurting the engines or transmission. No corporate lawyer would allow a car maker to add difficulty in turning off the car under duress after what they know from these other experiences.

No matter what method you use to turn off the engine I promise you someone will come back and say that particular solution is "unsafe". I saw this for years of my working life. I sat through presentations with the corporate lawyers who had to defend our brand in crazy legal cases. As they say, no matter what you do you someone will come after you. I recall we had the same thing with air bags, we were being sued by people with air bags who claimed they were injured by them and at the same time being sued because another model car didn't have air bags as standard equipment (they were an option at one time on certain lower prices models. The lawyers for the plaintiff said we were "discriminating against people of lower income levels" or some silly thing.

No matter what, you can never please, or 100% protect, everyone. I am not losing any sleep over worries that I might accident shut off my car while driving, or forget to turn it off when I park it. I am statically more likely to be eaten by a hog in Indiana or choking on a hot dog than having either of these happen to me with my new Honda. (you can find those numbers if you like...they are published)

 

Unless you are driving the above, you are going to have parts that have potential to fail.

And car companies can only do so much to make a car safe from all potential accidents.

Is the steering wheel flawed because a driver can turn it and run himself or herself off the road (although at least in the crv, the wheel would likely shake first to warn you of leaving the lane)?

Is the push button start flawed because you can hold it down to turn the car off? Holding something down for a few seconds seems like something one would need to do on purpose, especially since the closest thing to the push button start is the audio power/volume knob and it feels entirely different being a knob rather than a button. I don't think they could be confused with each other, even if you aren't looking at what you're touching.

 

Amen, Brother

At some point a human has to be willing to take responsibility for their own actions. Even the best engineers and designers can not protect you 100% from your own carelessness, ignorance or negligence. Too many people are going through life now taking no responsibility and then when something goes wrong they want to blame or even sue someone else for not watching over them. There is a whole industry of lawyers who enrichen themselves promoting this sort of attitude. It costs us all thousands of dollars a year in additional cost to things and services as companies sometimes have to pay out ridiculous claims. Yes, there are good examples out there of legitimate issues that were caused by corporate negligence. But push button starters are not one of them!

 

i must say , its been very amusing to see 5 pages of back n forth over what will fail and what wont from a somewhat simple question of swapping types of ignition based on a personal preference. fyi , the flinstone car timber frame may split , so even that is doomed to failure...... more importantly i never thought of it before , but what keeps the rear axle in ?? the front is obviously in forward motion. next 5 pages of back n forth please..........