Good morning. I have noticed that whether I am on side streets or the highway my MPG seems much lower than it should be. I also want you to know I stop the auto-idle if that could contribute. No matter where I drive my mpg averages 19-21mpg. It is under warranty until January so I prefer to take it to my local Honda Dealer. The person I spoke with didn't seem too concerned about it, said they would look it over but he wasn't sure if they could do anything. I made an appointment but now I am second guessing. I have an auto shop I trust that I have been using exclusively for 12 years but I didn't want to start going there until the warranty ends. Does this sound low to you? There is another local dealer, do you think perhaps I should call them and see if they could look at it? Thanks in advance.
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Woah! You're lucky! My 2018 EX Sensing AWD has at no more than a 12 gallon tank. The most gas I've fit in it is 11.7 gallons with is showing 0 miles of range available.
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Stellantis is in dire financial straights.
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Hi There and Welcome to the Club.
Just FYI, your V is a 2018 EX AWD.
Honda Sensing is a suite of safety and driver-assistive features that was standard on all trims except the base LX. CR-V’s of your vintage (Gen 5) have 14.0 US Gal. tanks. The range you observe is an estimate and changes with the wind. It is not a fuel gauge.
Edit: I see your Ninja name. Maybe you meant Sensei 🤣
Happy Motoring
Well, it's good to know when it says 0 there are more than 2 gallons left.
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It raised my eyebrows that the point of sale is steering you away from thinking 20-22mpg shouldn't be unexpected. That sounds to me like a bad sign. I would expect the opposite from a reputable sale. They should be looking to resolve the issue. I'm also weary of a dealer selling an off brand... Could be fine but if something is awry, Honda may have passed or offered a lower price having more knowledge and accountability for their own vehicle. Not saying they're being dishonest but given the big picture, seems something is not in line
The 14 is good, but my 2011 Taurus I had before I believe was a 16 gallon.
The 14 is good, but my 2011 Taurus I had before I believe was a 16 gallon.
I read up a little on it, yikes.
IME, to maximize fuel economy, the GEN 5 needs to be driven differently. I drive this vehicle unlike any Ive ever owned and it's relatively limiting.
I baby mine, making a strict point to not drive it much over 2K RPMs and only over 3K at dire moments. For that I get mid to upper 20 MPGs in my hilly town and mid to upper 30s (sometimes ever 40 MPG) on our mostly flat and low elevation freeway systems. And that while hauling a work load. I set my CC at 70-72MPH when the freeway is clear of traffic. Just one mile per hour over 71-72 absolutely destroys the fuel economy. It is what it is.
Furthermore, I can never fill my tank with more than 11.5-12 gallons no matter how low the tank is. Ive done the economy math on paper and the figures on the dash are within 1/4
-1/2 MPG consistently.
I baby mine, making a strict point to not drive it much over 2K RPMs and only over 3K at dire moments. For that I get mid to upper 20 MPGs in my hilly town and mid to upper 30s (sometimes ever 40 MPG) on our mostly flat and low elevation freeway systems. And that while hauling a work load. I set my CC at 70-72MPH when the freeway is clear of traffic. Just one mile per hour over 71-72 absolutely destroys the fuel economy. It is what it is.
Furthermore, I can never fill my tank with more than 11.5-12 gallons no matter how low the tank is. Ive done the economy math on paper and the figures on the dash are within 1/4
-1/2 MPG consistently.
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I would be very happy with those results. It was one thing to go by the dash but to do the math and physically know I am low is what concerns me. What does sit with me the most is the service manager that said MPGs are not guaranteed. If I bought the CRV expecting 27-32 and I thought there was a chance I'd only get 21 I would not have bought it.
Yeah, had a 2014 Taurus SEL AWD that had the big tank and would get 28mpg highway, so cruising was relative painless.
Id pull the plugs and see how they look. Dirty air filter maybe?
Maybhe. Not sure and not a car guy (ie. mechanically inclined).
Heck of a deal going on. So I made the appointment last Friday for this Saturday. I asked if I could get a loaner. I reached out to the director of the 12 dealerships I dealt with and made him aware that I was coming in and that they were giving me a car. We are having some snow due this weekend and I called Monday to see if there was anyway I could come on Weds. I talked to the rental/loaner scheduler and he said they only give loaners for owners of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram since that is what they sell. So I reached out to the director and he was not happy. Long story but he said I would have a loaner on Friday and if I could pick it up by 10. Yesterday I had a weird feeling about the situation and called and spoke to the scheduler. No loaner on the list. I mentioned the director had reached out personally to your dealership and he said he would check the rental calendar. I was on that one and he said he would move it over. I asked if he worked on Friday and he said he was off. I asked him if I didn't call would have the person on staff know to check the other calendar. Sounds like no. Pissed off after all the issues so far I reached out to the service manager again. He said he had a note on his desk and was fully aware. I asked what time he would be in on Friday as I was to pick it up early. He said after 10 so if he had the note on his desk and it didn't again reach the person on staff pardon my French but WTF.
So I did the 150 mile fill up test/drive and got 21.6. I'm going to do another today as I am going for a useless ride on the thruway and I have to pick up my daughter tonight from out of town. I'll fill up late and do the math again.
So I did the 150 mile fill up test/drive and got 21.6. I'm going to do another today as I am going for a useless ride on the thruway and I have to pick up my daughter tonight from out of town. I'll fill up late and do the math again.
Was it always like that? Weather and the driver make a difference but that definitely seems low
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Winter gas can make a 1-2 mpg difference. Do you use fuel system cleaner regularly?
I have a ‘21 EX-L and in my experience low MPG such as you are experiencing in city/suburban driving is NOT normal. I get close to 27-29 MPG when I’ve done almost all city driving.
I keep ECON mode on all the time. I’m not sure why anyone would turn it off.
I keep idle stop on all the time. I’ve not done a controlled test (that would be really difficult) but in my view it only helps MPG. Plus, it’s the climate-ethical thing to do. (Yes, sometimes it doesn’t engage based on other system factors.)
The only other thing is how you drive. I do no “jack rabbit starts”, I don’t really speed and when safe I do a lot of coasting before breaking for a stop.
I haven’t done any long trips of only highway driving, but from what I’ve experienced so far I’d expect about 35 MPG.
If one dealer can’t find anything wrong I’d get a second opinion.
I keep ECON mode on all the time. I’m not sure why anyone would turn it off.
I keep idle stop on all the time. I’ve not done a controlled test (that would be really difficult) but in my view it only helps MPG. Plus, it’s the climate-ethical thing to do. (Yes, sometimes it doesn’t engage based on other system factors.)
The only other thing is how you drive. I do no “jack rabbit starts”, I don’t really speed and when safe I do a lot of coasting before breaking for a stop.
I haven’t done any long trips of only highway driving, but from what I’ve experienced so far I’d expect about 35 MPG.
If one dealer can’t find anything wrong I’d get a second opinion.
After reading through this thread it sounds to me like too much fuel is getting into the engine from a bad O2 sensor or a dirty Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor. Have the fuel injectors been checked? They may be clogged up. Or a clogged or damaged catalytic converter. I am by no means a mechanic but I haven't seen any of those being mentioned as a potential solution. Did you ever check the air filter?
This guy is full of shit. Complete BS. Even poor driving habits will yield somewhat better MPG if the car is in good/proper working condition. And highway MPG, even 70+, will get you at least 29-30 in a headwind!
This is also part of the problem, and likely why you got such a great deal. They are likely clueless about the Honda AWD and 1.5T product. Along with all of the things everyone here has mentioned, Is the impeller damaged? That 1.5L engine will not give you enough power without it, and your MPG will suffer. What does a full download of the ECM data reveal? Did they offer you a FREE carfax report? A complete service history printout? Something is rotten in Denmark here.
We have a 2022 EX-L AWD as well, with around 13K miles. City driving is as advertised, with no unusually easy/harsh driving. Highway MPG is around 33-35.
I am sorry you are in this predicament, but it's time to play hardball with the seller. Find out where the car came from, look up the VIN to see exactly when it was put in service and what service/repair records are available, look for accident/damage reports via Carfax or Autocheck, enter the VIN in this site: National Insurance Crime Bureau's free VINCheck to see if it was reported as salvage, check if your state has a law that covers used car lemon laws, or the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act to seek relief if your search turns up some nefarious actions by the dealer that sold you the car. Again, the fact that you got a really sweet deal makes me wonder if the dealer knew some things about the car that they were unable to resolve.
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