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Corn Fusion be gone.

27/32 AWD 1.5T
40/35 AWD 2.0L HEV

27 is much lower than 40
and 32 is about the same as 35

That is my answer to your question:
I don't have a Hybrid, it is Just a 2022 CRV EXL AWD CRT. Does that affect the numbers a little compared to yours?

As you can see, my real world numbers for my driving are about 35.5 Average where the EPA estimate is 38. That is because of a lot of factors but the biggest is that I drive more highway(ish) than city stop n go.

Edit: But thats not important. What is important is why you are only getting 20 mpg. The challenge is to find out why.

So what would drag your mpg down? Its a long list.
Brakes dragging or two foot driving.
Wrong oil.
Bad gas.
Transmission issue
Alignment issue.
Tire issue.
Timing issue.
Injector issue.
Spark plug issue
ECM issue.
Exhaust restriction
Weather issue
Load issue
or (dont take offense)
Driver issue
or any combination of the above

Also consider that concern for fuel economy should logically begin with the judicious use of the Econ mode.
 
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Corn Fusion be gone.

27/32 AWD 1.5T
40/35 AWD 2.0L HEV

27 is much lower than 40
and 32 is about the same as 35

That is my answer to your question:
I don't have a Hybrid, it is Just a 2022 CRV EXL AWD CRT. Does that affect the numbers a little compared to yours?

As you can see, my real world numbers for my driving are about 35.5 Average where the EPA estimate is 38. That is because of a lot of factors but the biggest is that I drive more highway(ish) than city stop n go.

Edit: But thats not important. What is important is why you are only getting 20 mpg. The challenge is to find out why.

So what would drag your mpg down? Its a long list.
Brakes dragging or two foot driving.
Wrong oil.
Bad gas.
Transmission issue
Alignment issue.
Tire issue.
Timing issue.
Injector issue.
Spark plug issue
ECM issue.
Weather issue
Load issue
or (dont take offense)
Driver issue
or any combination of the above

Also consider that concern for fuel economy should logically begin with the judicious use of the Econ mode.
Sorry the reason I wrote you had a hybrid is under the second picture you posted it says hybrid touring radiant. I assume that was your own description of your display. Mine is not a hybrid either. Sorry for the confusion. Mine is exactly the same as yours. After speaking with the director of the dealership group that I bought the car from that's a route I'm definitely going to explore. I called Honda Corp tonight and they confirmed that I have a full new car warranty until mid January. So from hearing that the service manager was going to waive the diagnostic fee is not even correct. There should be no diagnostic fee. as far as no guarantee of miles per gallon why would anybody put a sticker on a car window then? I am going to reach out and speak to the service manager himself or herself before I go next Saturday and clear up a few things. As far as driving habits I'm about 70% City and 30% highway driving. City driving about 5 Mi over limit highway 10. I'm 52 so my Speed Demon Days are far behind me so I drive pretty reasonably.
 
What you are reading is not what I wrote. It is my signature block that appears automatically on every post I make. It is what I have. The photos are of my display.

I know what you are talking about and my suggestions are based on your jalopy, not mine.
 
I did just get off the phone with my point of sale. Even though they are 93 miles away it would be cheaper as they would waive the diagnostic and even give me a loaner if I need one. The service advisor spoke with his service manager who agreed to wave the diagnostic but he said they can't guarantee the actual MPG of a vehicle based on so many factors. Shenanigans or not?
One can look up current EPA testing parameters.
 
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What you are reading is not what I wrote. It is my signature block that appears automatically on every post I make. It is what I have. The photos are of my display.

I know what you are talking about and my suggestions are based on your jalopy, not mine.
oh okay. Sorry about that. These suggestions you made are appreciated. I just hope that what it is can be covered under warranty and not wear and tear.
 
Thanks for responding. I am at 17,600 Mi. I bought the vehicle used from a dealership in July of this year. As far as the last changes I'm not sure but the oil is currently showing at 50% life. I'm not in eco mode and I am suburb of a large city so it's mostly regular streets or highways. Actually I believe it's been going on for a bit. the car came came with horrible tires on it and it was out of alignment when I had new ones put on last month. I figured that could have been a factor but no change. I actually spoke with two different service managers. When I first got the car and it was low I was told to reset the system as the mileage per gallon is based on the driving habits. As a new owner it was still including the driving habits of the old one. The other service manager said that was bullpucky as there is no way that would stay in memory and sounded ridiculous. Especially with the 14 gallon tank it seems like I get about 300 and some odd miles till empty. I'm adding two pictures to this post. One is to show the trip with miles per gallon that it says I'm currently getting. Also I had filled 14 gallon tank and it says what I have left to E and then I took another picture of the trip counter of how far I've actually gone since I filled it. It's a little over 300 miles total on a full tank View attachment 173779 View attachment 173780
If you are doing a lot of short trips, stop and go traffic, or a lot of idling then this seems pretty normal to me. My 1.5t gets killer fuel economy but I do mostly highway.

For instance, my wife does mostly city and short trips in our Odyssey, the sticker says we should get 19 city....last tank was 15.8 and currently reads 14.
 
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I say fill up the V and drive 100 miles on the highway to see if you fair better.
 
You can compare what you get to what others with the same engine on Fuelly.
I get 3 MPG more with 38lbs pressure in each tire than the ridiculous 32lbs the sticker says.
The ride is harsher, but the MPG are better.


The EPA test is for comparison car to car - It is not what you will get - It is if you drive exactly as they test it.

Here is the tests

 
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You can compare what you get to what others with the same engine on Fuelly.
I get 3 MPG more with 38lbs pressure in each tire than the ridiculous 32lbs the sticker says.
The ride is harsher, but the MPG are better.


The EPA test is for comparison car to car - It is not what you will get - It is if you drive exactly as they test it.

Here is the tests

Thank you. I did it on fuelly and the lowest it showed was 4 reported a 22 but the largest range was from 26-32 with the most at 29. Even if you don't drive it as they test it if I had gone to purchase it and it said 27/32 and they said however you could get as low as 19/20 I would have simply left. I have owned many cars in my life and this is the first with such a large discrepancy over MPG.
 
what numbers do you get by tracking actual miles & gallons pumped? are they close to the computer figures?
The math ranges from 35.3 to 35.6 over 3 fill ups. Within 1.5 mpg from the trip meter.

I should say that the math numbers that I did was on a trip so 80% highway.
 
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I just got back home, tracked my usage and refilled the tank. After the math not based on the display but in actual measurement I got 21.9MPG. Compared to what I am supposed to get too low for me. 27 city/32 highway vs. 21.9 regardless is way too off. I'll admit I started after this and what the service manager said about MPG not being guaranteed I started to look into NYS Lemon Law. I 100% qualify in my case.

I am thinking the best plan is to take it to my local Honda as scheduled for Tuesday as I bought the car used from a Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram dealer. The group manager I bought it from had said if needed they would send it to a Honda dealer if they couldn't work on it. So maybe try Honda directly but I'm kind of not too confident when I told the advisor and he said he wasn't sure what they could do.

I will still call the service manager at the point of purchase on Monday and then plan to take it on Saturday if it's not resolved by my Honda Dealer. I will talk to the dealership group manager about how best to solve this if there is no success. If I have to I will go for a return/exchange.

I'm not sure what else to do. Especially now that I have actual proof versus just the display.

Thoughts of any kind WOULD be appreciated and respected. Thank you to everyone so far.
 
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